An Israeli government spokesperson faces a journalist who won’t accept lies. What follows is not just an interview — it’s a public breakdown of propaganda. Sharp questions, dodged answers, and facts that cut through the spin.
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people indiscriminate killing against my
people you know we the Jewish people we
recognize evil when we see it what
happens when an Israeli government
spokesperson with smooth talk faces a
journalist who refuses to accept lies
you get an interview that feels like a
public trial welcome to this video what
to expect: a relentless interrogation
sharp questions evasive answers and the
slow public breakdown of the Israeli
propaganda machine the journalist is
sharp unforgiving armed with facts and
has zero tolerance for hypocrisy he’s
every government spokesperson’s worst
nightmare david Menser spokesperson for
the Israeli government a master at
repeating talking points by heart he
falls apart the moment he’s asked for
proof his answers numbers with no source
claims with no evidence and a tone that
swings between playing the victim and
acting morally superior this interview
shows how language is used to justify
war because truth gets drowned in
numbers in framing in spin and because
some people refuse to stay silent like
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this isn’t an interview um this is an
autopsy on credibility let’s begin what
has Israel achieved through the war
well first things first Yama it’s
important to understand that this was
not a war we wanted this war shocked us
almost everyone here knows someone that
uh was killed on October the 7th uh it
shook our very sense of security our war
aims are the same as on day one they are
of course to uh defeat Hamas to make
sure that they cannot exist anymore
politically uh militarily uh to bring
back our hostages and also to ensure
that Gaza can never be a threat not only
to Israel but to the civilized world as
well so those are our war aims you said
as you said you said your government set
three goals destroy Hamas return the
hostages and give the Israelis their
sense of security back but you’ve failed
to deliver on all these promises why is
that do you think so I would challenge
that uh wholeheartedly militarily the
the particulars are quite uh interesting
we think there are 24 battalions of
Hamas we think we’ve destroyed at least
18 or 19 of those military battalions
there are still four uh in Rafa you
claim that you’ve destroyed 18 Hamas
battalions what is the proof of that
so the proof is uh from the battlefield
itself we know the number of Hamas and
Islamic Jihad terrorists that we’ve
killed uh we know we’ve killed at least
13,000 terrorists uh armed terrorists i
remind you again how do you know that
you’ve killed 13,000 terrorists because
they were firing at us uh so did you do
a head count yes so this is a verifiable
fact according to you i don’t say that
we have their lists i don’t say we have
their names but we have killed 13,000
combatants on Yes but it’s just a number
Mr menser it’s just a number we have
never seen any concrete proof that backs
up this number so I’m a spokesman for
this government uh I’m a spokesman for
the uh for this government and and the
Israeli people and I’ll tell you right
now that we have killed 13,000
terrorists we have executed the gold
standard when it comes to d uh firing
and directing our war at the terrorists
and getting civilians out of harm’s way
we have no problem with the people of
Gaza we want them uh to have a better
future uh but we need to get rid of this
genocidal murderous organizations and
that is what we are doing you say you’ve
set the gold standard your critics would
say Israel is waging a genocidal war
according to UN experts Israel finds
itself in the docks in the International
Criminal Court of Justice which says
there is plausible reason to believe
genocide is being committed in Gaza the
EU says Israel is using starvation as a
weapon against 2.2 million
Gazans doesn’t really sound like a gold
standard so let me uh take those apart
because there’s a lot in that question
which you just asked uh uh on on
genocide uh I would point you to the
fact that a genocide was committed
against my people indiscriminate killing
against my people you know we the Jewish
people we recognize evil when we see it
um uh we’ve been very very clear that
it’s a terrible war it’s a dangerous war
we’ve lost 606 of our soldiers in this
war uh but this country is united on its
war aims and we will be successful
because you know we don’t have anywhere
else to go in this you know there is
only one Jewish state in the entire
world explain to us why you’re bent on
moving into Rafa with your forces
so the first things first on this
question of Rafa we move civilian out of
harm’s way it’s very very important to
us in all of the battles which we fought
and they have been it’s an extremely
complex uh military environment
extremely complex because because it is
an urban uh it’s not a regular
battlefield it is an urban um
environment uh where Hamas fire at us
from hospitals from schools from mosques
there are 1.4 million people in Rafa we
believe there are about 1 million and I
think our figures are That’s a lot still
a lot of people a military offensive
encourage them to go there to get out of
harm’s way exactly that’s why they’re
there but a military offensive into Rafa
will end in a slaughter the UN warns
tell us how are you going to evacuate
all these people in the same way that
we’ve done in the past that didn’t work
very well you told people to move to
what was a safe zone then your forces
would end up bombing that area are you
going to follow the same formula
so again I think that’s a
misrepresentation of the this war we’re
after Hamas we’ve got no problem with
ordinary gardens i won’t be sharing with
you uh our battle plans they’re being
discussed right now i’m not asking about
the battle plan Mr manser i’m asking how
are you going to evacuate 1.4 million
people out of Rafa we will do the same
as we’ve done in other parts of this
harsh military war we move people out of
harm’s way we’ve already acquired you
there’s been multiple reports of um
shelters which have been acquired safe
zones where people can move to we’ve
also seen people with white flags
in plain sight being shot by your forces
we’ve also seen people in so-called safe
zones being bombed so we’ve seen your
forces kill people on the run from your
bombs as well over the past 6 months so
again I would say to you that we feel we
are the most humane army which has ever
existed in in living memory we’ve done
more to protect civilian lives where
there have been yama this is important
that people would let me let me show you
even shot your own hostages that came
out there waved flags and your shoulders
should an extremely um extremely uh
terrible occurrence that was so how are
people where we have made mistakes how
are these where we have made mistakes we
investigate
uh we wait for those results and we
adjust our behavior according ly that’s
what democracies do
does Israel abide by international law
yes a UN Security Council resolution
passed more than 4 weeks ago demanded a
ceasefire it demanded a stop to the war
such a resolution is legally binding for
all UN members yet your forces continue
to bomb Gaza isn’t that a clear breach
of international law
so uh the Americans made clear that it
wasn’t legally binding and with all the
legal cases you can get a number of
opinions but they made sure that it
wasn’t legally binding why doesn’t
Israel respect the UN Security Council
resolution ordering you to cease fire
you know that the only way Israel
managed to release around 100 hostages
was through negotiations which paved the
way for a ceasefire back in December yet
you’re continuing the war why we’re not
dealing with Norway here we’re not
dealing with Scandinavia we’re dealing
with a genocidal murderous organization
we would love to be able to um settle
all of our differences around the
negotiating table but again and again
and again Hamas keep walking away and
you know this war could end this
afternoon before the sun goes down uh
behind me this war could end right now
if Hamas did two things laid down their
arms and released our hostages more than
34,000 people have been killed in Gaza
according to the Palestinian Health
Ministry your government rejects these
figures why would you take the figures
of
al-Qaeda at face value
but the UN and WH says the figures from
the Gaza Health Ministry Hamas’s health
ministry are reliable that they even
passed international scrutiny in
previous wars in fact if you look up the
numbers in the wars in 2014 and 2021
Israel’s and Hamas’s casualty numbers
were almost
identical why would suddenly they lie in
this current crisis and war the health
ministry does not differentiate uh
between a civilian combatant which is a
tragedy we say that very very clearly
and a terrorist we do we do the UN says
these numbers coming from the Hamas
Health Ministry are reliable there’s no
reason to doubt them because several
times this health ministry during this
war has published long lists of names
where you have the ID number uh their
names detailed lists have been published
documenting who has been killed inside
the Gaza Strip during this war you claim
you’ve killed 13,000 Hamas fighters yet
you haven’t produced any lists
whatsoever no documentation it’s a
number you’re giving the world it’s a
number which our army uh has given to us
uh in a democratic country uh with
checks and balances with media scrutiny
with all the western values that Norway
uh holds dear or should hold dear mr
menser I ask you again where is the
concrete proof that you’ve killed 13,000
fighters okay you claim it but where is
the proof at least Hamas’s health
ministry has published lists confirming
who has died several times i wouldn’t
trust I wouldn’t take uh Hamas’s word
for anything literally anything so we
shouldn’t believe Hamas we shouldn’t
believe the UN the World Health
Organizations all the aid groups on the
ground rights groups from all over the
world we shouldn’t believe them we
should believe the Israeli government
you’ll excuse me if I feel extremely
skeptical about almost anything which
comes out of the United Nations we are a
proud member of the United Nations uh
our officials uh express uh our beliefs
in the United Nations and we defend
ourselves as is the right thing to do
but you know all of us here in Israel
feel extreme skepticism at the double
standards which the UN constantly uh
throws at us we simply uh don’t take
their word for it they’re simply quoting
Hamas hamas is a genocidal organization
and we simply can’t you wouldn’t take
ISIS word for it so why on earth would
you take Hamas’s word for it let’s move
on to the attacks you’ve carried out
against Gaza’s hospitals uh the UN says
Gaza’s health system has been completely
destroyed by your forces why have you
attacked most of the hospitals in
Gaza because there is almost not one
hospital or medical um institution that
has not been used as a base for terror
as for weapons storage uh with tunnels
underneath hamas is a deadly terrorist
organization so you know they killed
1,200 more than 1,200 of my people on
October the 7th uh babies and and
beheadings and rapes and terrible
terrible things so you know I think the
beheadings by the way been proven yes
i haven’t seen that proof can you
explain it to us have the beheadings
been proven yes they have been uh proven
um you can go on um you know if you
speak to the IDF uh spokesman i’m not a
spokesman for the IDF but they will show
you the evidence if you uh ask for it
for those terrible crimes one week into
the war your army spokesperson Daniel
Hagari showed the world a virtual 3D
model of an alleged Hamas command and
control center which stretched several
stories beneath the largest medical
facility in Gaza the Shifa hospital
which you know very well of why haven’t
you shown any proof of such a command
center again Yama this really line of
questioning really shocks us here in
Israel because we have we’ve shown you
we’ve shown the world media many many
journalists have been taken to those
tunnels we’ve seen those bulletproof
doors we’ve seen the cells terror
specifically with Shipper Hospital what
you’ve shown the world are abandoned
tunnels and shafts and weapons your
forces claim were found inside the
hospital that does not prove that Hamas
had a threestory underground command and
control center under the Shifa a claim
Israel has used to justify the attacks
on hospitals all over the Gaza Strip i’m
quite disappointed at this line of
questioning and it’s not it’s not just
from you because we face this um
unreasonable burden of proof of the the
horrors of Hamas strategies we’ve shown
you tunnels hamas has never denied they
had tunnels under Gaza that’s an open
secret but you’re claiming that they had
a command center under the biggest
hospital in Gaza you use that as an
argument to lay that hospital in ruins
and that’s why it’s a question the
international press has to ask you where
is this command center under the Shifa
hospital
asking questions is of course uh the
right thing to do for any journalist but
we have produced evidence of uh terror
tunnels underneath the hospital i
apologize Yama if it’s not enough for
you i apologize for the fact that we
found RPGs in an in an intensive care
unit i apologize for the fact that we
were fired on from the maternity ward
and I can tell you one thing it wasn’t
the midwives that were firing at us the
evidence is clearly there journalists
have been taken there there is a terror
tunnel network twice the size of the
London Underground you’ve said it time
and again you find the line of
questioning regarding the attacks on the
hospitals and questioning these tunnels
offensive i don’t find it offensive i
find it ridiculous to be ridiculous you
know for an intelligent person like you
Yama it’s ridiculous what else do you
need to see you’ve seen videos you Hamas
admit it we’re fired from there the
terrorists are there we kill 200 there
the doctors we move the doctors and and
the patients out of the way you know I
don’t know i It’s It’s a ridiculous line
of questioning i’m not shocked by it i
find it ridiculous but why don’t you
open Gaza for international press who
can freely move around and check these
tunnels for themselves for because what
you’ve done until now in this war you’ve
sealed the borders no journalists
independent journalists are allowed in
to Gaza by your forces and by Egypt the
journalists you’re talking about who are
allowed in are handpicked by the IDF
they go on so-called embeds where the
IDF forces decide where they go where
they move where they film and who they
talk to that’s hardly the standard of
free press
so Yama we have taken in many many
journalists critical journalists
critical journalists as well we have
taken in many many journalists on the
point guided tours Mr menser that’s
different that that’s not how free press
should operate we should have the
ability the possibility to move around
freely to check and verify things for
ourselves that’s our job especially in a
war so you’re not allowing us to do our
job yama you’ve put this accusation to
me let me give you Israel’s Israeli
government response it’s not an
accusation it’s a fact you do not allow
independent children you put this you’ve
put these points on the Gaza Strip
you’ve put these points to me allow me
to reply number one this is a war zone
an active war zone not a normal war zone
not like in other countries in the past
this is perhaps an unprecedented war
zone in human history uh where so is
Ukraine where they are allowed all the
way to the front allow me to reply
you’ve asked me a question please do me
the courtesy of allowing me to reply so
it’s an active war zone we have
hostages in that in in in Gaza we know
there are still 133 of our people
unfortunately 36 of them have been
killed we know that our hostages uh are
uh there as well we fear for their for
their presence as well and we know that
our armed forces would be jeopardized
they would be jeopardized and we will
always put the lives of our armed forces
ahead of uh any sort of uh journalists
wanting uh to go in your critics say
that you’re denying access to
journalists who can operate
independently inside Gaza because you
don’t want the world to see what you’re
doing inside Gaza how do you respond to
that so the news practically let’s talk
about practically rather than your hurt
personal hurt feelings practically the
news is getting out of Gaza there are
many many Palestinian journalists
reporting uh from Gaza which is their
absolute right to tell you what a
hundred of them have also been killed in
this war and we also unprecedented and
we also know Yama that many of these
journalists call themselves journalists
but being active Hamas operatives and
you presented proof of this claim yes we
have we have presented proof to the
world’s media of uh Al Jazzer’s um uh
the head of Alazer his children
unfortunately who we had to target uh
were Hamas operatives so let’s not paint
this as some sort of pure um you know
Norwegian uh type environment recently
an independent inquiry concluded that
Israel has not produced a shred of
evidence backing up their claim since
January your government has has been
claiming that UNRA supports Hamas that a
number of UNRA employees took active
part in the October 7th attacks if you
make that claim why don’t you present
the evidence to this independent inquiry
so Yama uh just today at a press
conference at 3:30 I presented just that
evidence why didn’t you give it to the
UN investigators that’s precisely what
we did we gave when they and if you ask
but they’ve been asking for evidence for
weeks so that is another slur a long
list of many slurs against this country
we cooperated wholeheartedly with this
investigation but unfortunately it is a
whitewash this investigation
unfortunately hasn’t been independent
and is another proof point of why this
organization UNRA cannot be reformed the
international community is not buying
what Israeli government is saying most
of the donor countries which cut aid to
Anra based on the claims you made
against them that they took part in the
Hamas attack on October 7th most of them
have reinstated the aid even the Germans
even they decided this week that they
would reinstate the aid going to UNRA so
nobody seemed to believe your
proof so that’s something that we are
upset about i be frank with you uh the
Israeli government has produced multiple
evidence of the widespread uh handinhand
relationship between UNRA and Hamas you
know there was an Ham Hamas server farm
right underneath UNRA’s headquarters i
mean it’s almost far to believe there
isn’t a connection it wasn’t a few bad
apples this was a whole rotten orchard
internationally it’s seen as Israel has
a lot of trust issues israel claims like
you’ve said 13,000 Hamas operatives have
been killed hospitals have been used as
Hamas control and command bases un aid
workers UNRA workers took part in terror
attacks why should the world believe
your side of the story when you keep
pushing unfounded claims
yama we have produced all the evidence
that you’ve talked about but
unfortunately it’s never enough it’s
never enough for people that do not wish
to uh see the truth or believe the truth
because they have some sort of um uh
vested interest or they believe uh
intrinsically that Israel is in some way
guilty almost 7 months into the war
nobody seems to understand what Israel’s
postwar plan for Gaza is what will
happen to Gaza after you’re done with
the war
so once uh Hamas have been removed uh
politically and militarily uh Gaza needs
to be rebuilt a better future a more
hopeful future needs to be uh allowed
for their people we need to uh do the
same thing which happened uh in Germany
at 1945 where um the allies
magnanimously uh rebuilt uh Germany
which was destroyed uh by the allies and
more importantly dradicalized it they
dradicalized you mentioned the allies
during the second world war israel going
to rebuild Gaza because you bombed the
place so unfortunately this is not a war
that we wanted or a war that we asked
for nor did the allies ask for that war
but they helped rebuild Germany so my
question is the World Bank estimates
that your bombing has caused damages in
Gaza to the tune of $18.2 billion and my
question is will Israel pay for the
reconstruction nothing would make Israel
happier Israelis I think to a person
outside of this building nothing would
make Israel happier to have peaceful
neighbors uh in Gaza to have a Gaza
which is prosperous to have a Gaza which
is uh allow allows for a better future
for its children uh a Gaza which is
dradicalized and is not constantly every
18 months uh waging war against us or
firing rockets at us mr mr mensor you’ve
made that point time and again during
the interview i had a very specific
point this is important to us okay so is
the reconstruction of Gaza 4 million
people who have lost their homes i’m
asking you Israel bombed Gaza will you
take the bill for the reconstruction so
I don’t have an answer to that question
because I’m I don’t know the official
answer and I don’t want to give you
should pay for the reconstruction of
Gaza gaza should be rebuilt we will we
have in the past used our expertise you
know to rebuild uh um Gaza in the past
people listening to your answer sir
would would think that okay Israel is
not committing to pick up the bill
picking up the bill for the
reconstruction of Gaza why should the
international community pay for the
destruction Israel caused in Gaza so
once again Yama I don’t have an answer
to that question and I don’t want to
make a commitment here on your on
Norwegian TV much as it’s an important
channel I can’t give you an a commitment
to that answer because I simply don’t
know you’ve said time and again that
your war is not against the Palestinian
people your war is against Hamas so if
you rebuild our houses wouldn’t that be
a very good gesture on the road to
coexistence
so Yama this is the fourth time I think
you’ve asked me this question and I will
give you the same answer i’m happy to uh
get an official uh response to that but
I cannot give a commitment to you this
evening how does the Israeli government
see the way forward
so the prime minister has made uh clear
within weeks this conflict could be
could be over which is why the prime
minister said uh to president Biden and
he was quoting uh Winston Churchill uh
speaking to the Americans a different
American president he said give us the
tools to finish the job we’re almost
there we will destroy will obliterate
this organization and we want to get
back to peace to coexistence to allowing
Gardens and Israelis to have a better
future
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