Feature interview with Elana Freeland. Transcript included.
“Chemtrails/geoengineering is neither a “conspiracy theory” nor “solar radiation management” requiring “carbon dioxide removal.” In reality, geoengineering is a weapon system whose wireless, ionized atmosphere is maintained to serve the creation and control of an AI-driven planet and its transhuman Human 2.0 energy source.”
– Elena Freeland [1]
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In spite of “media disinformation” still remaining a recurring theme of Global Research and the Global Research News Hour, many educated people assume that they are up to speed on most of the great scientific discoveries of the last 120 years.
One can think of the Manhattan Project – the U.S. pursuit of atomic weaponry by super-talented atomic scientists, which was kept secret from the public until the mighty blast knocked their precocious socks off. [2]
The Manhattan Project eventually was revealed to the public. But can we assume that all such secret technological wizardry gets disclosed sooner or later?
Consider, for example, that after World War II, when the “nasty” Nazis were defeated, there was a covert U.S. program called Operation Paperclip that transferred doctors, scientists, and technicians – many of whom were accused of war crimes, mass murder and slavery – over to the United States to continue their research work! [3]
What’s more, we discover the work of a brilliant scientific genius by the name of Nikola Tesla whose ground-breaking discoveries were so extra-ordinary that it would be best to keep it, not unlike the atomic bomb itself, out of the view and knowledge of enemies.[4]
Today, concepts like geoengineering, 5G/6G, direct energy weapons, and nanotechnology are largely contained and controlled in mainstream media circles behind intellectual barriers called “fact-checks” and reduced to “conspiracy theories” put out by unsophisticated imps. However, it is worth noting that a number of these technologies (if not all) have applications that are patented and could be dug up by anyone at their leisure. [5]
One writer and researcher has devoted much of her time to exploring the rabbit holes that the majority of intellectuals and journalists fear to tread, and she reveals that they are not just being used to transform the weather and create wildfires. She has determined that the end goal for these activities is to change not just the planet but humankind itself into a “transhuman” species which she calls Human 2.0.
The intellectual explorer’s name is Elana Freeland. She is a past guest of the Global Research News Hour and she joins us for the majority of the program to explore the new technocratic direction in which we are all headed, and what we can do to apply a halt before it is too late.
Elana Freeland is a writer, ghostwriter, lecturer, storyteller, and teacher who researches and writes on Deep State issues, including the stories of survivors of MK-ULTRA, ritual abuse, and invasive electromagnetic weapons (Nexus, October 2014). She is the Author of the three book geoengineering trilogy. The 4th book of the trilogy – The Geoengineered Transhuman: The Hidden Technologies of HAARP, Chemtrails, 5G/6G, Nanotechnology, Synthetic Biology, and the Scientific Effort to Transform Humanity was published this past February.
(Global Research News Hour Episode 475)
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Transcript of Conversation with Elana Freeland, May 16, 2025.
Global Research: You mentioned in your last interview with me about direct energy weapons and geoengineering that are affecting climate wildfires. We will discuss the transhumanism angle just a little bit later in our talk, and the aims of these and other technologies that you write about just in a minute. But first, I’d like it if you could talk a little bit more about some of the other technologies being used to affect the planet, of course, but there would have other things going on as well.
Talk about them beyond the Direct Energy Weapons thing and how these technologies actually came into existence.
Elana Freeland: If you mean geoengineering itself, and that is a very broad subject, as the titles of my books indicate, you have to really start back in the ‘90s when a construction project up in Gakona, Alaska was made public in a book in 1995 called Angels Don’t Play This Harp, and the harp was spelled H-A-A-R-P for the high-frequency active auroral research project going up in Alaska. And that book was written by Dr. Nick Begich and Gene Manning.
I read that book just about right after it came out, and bizarrely, the following day, I had been reading it at a substitute teacher job that I had in the faculty lunchroom, and various people sat at the table. And yet, the following day, I had an army helicopter over my house for approximately 10 minutes while I guess he was charting my x-y coordinates. I assume I was going on some sort of list, and I right away realized that the book I was reading by Nick Begich was really a blockbuster of a national security project that was going on, and that I was, you know, I don’t know, it might be dangerous.
I didn’t know. I mean, that was not a time when you heard anything about geoengineering, never even heard the word in the press. What we heard was chemtrails, and we heard a lot of making fun of people, particularly in the early internet days, making fun of people as tinfoil hats, and there are no chemtrails, and that’s ridiculous, and the whole CIA thing that my generation, the ‘60s generation, had gone through after John F. Kennedy’s assassination in Dallas.
The CIA had thrown, bandied about this term conspiracy theorist, and it became sort of a way of dismissing anyone who was questioning or criticizing the narrative that was put out by the mainstream media, so that was my beginning, and I had a file on chemtrails at that point, and I made a file for HAARP, the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project, not even knowing what that was. I didn’t know what an ionospheric heater was. I didn’t know how the technology was used.
I was as ignorant as many people are to this day, because it was not put before the public. There was no debate. There was no discussion about this very militarized project.
It was highly classified. As I started doing research and trying to find out, for example, find out what were the formulae that went into the jet fuel of the jets that were leaving these what I thought were contrails at that time, condensation trails, but they were long, and they lasted forever, and then they turned into a white cirrus-like cloud cover. The more I found out, the more in doubt I was about the secrecy required, and I realized that as with all DARPA projects, and this certainly was a DARPA project, you’re dealing with weaponry, and my concern was that if these chemtrails were being dropped above us and would leave a big long trail, unlike contrails, which usually left a very short trail that then would dissipate within 30 seconds maximum, but these long trails would turn into this cirrus cloud cover.
GR: Could I just interrupt you for a second? I just want to mention that there was a report in the news recently in which Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the newly appointed Secretary of Health and Human Services, had said that the chemtrails are indeed real and that DARPA was most likely involved, but there was the press coverage at the time. It was shaped, it continues to be shaped by messaging about how these so-called, by so-called fact checks saying that chemtrails are a conspiracy theory that have been debunked by scientific authorities, and they heard a four-minute demonstration about how they’re actually contrails, and talk about, could you just mention how the announcement by Kennedy, how profound it is, and talk about the reaction on the part of the mainstream press?
EF: Yeah, well, the mainstream press, as you and I both know, is completely controlled now, not necessarily by the Democratic Party or the DNC, but by a certain opinion that has been decided is to be secret, but in full public display under various structured narratives. It’s very similar to the Kennedy assassination, isn’t it? I mean, we knew, day one, we knew, at least people in my generation knew, that Lee Harvey Oswald had not been the sole perpetrator, if he was indeed a perpetrator at all, and yet that idea has been maintained for six decades now, and it’s completely a lie, it’s a fabrication.
So, the fact that they were using a fabrication for this, for like, moving from chemtrails, which was the only term we had in the ‘90s for whatever this was that was happening in the sky, we had no idea. I mean, okay, there’s a lot of passenger jets, a lot of jets are flying, people are going places, that’s all it is, it’s just from passenger jets. And then it was known now and then it seems to be military, and you know, there was a lot of discussion, but it was rarely in the mainstream media, it was in the alternative media.
And of course, that was completely made fun of, and you know, conspiracy theory, tinfoil hat. So, when Robert Kennedy, the new HHS secretary, announced that he had discovered that he was going to really look into this chemtrails problem, now that almost 30 states are now petitioning with a bill, they each have a bill, to their state legislature, to stop the chemtrails over their state. And this is, the awareness took a big leap in, you know, because I have followed this for 20 years, so you’re not talking to some rookie here, who has, you know, some sort of emotional opinion about this, not at all.
But when North Carolina, when the storm that hit North Carolina and its behavior, began to sort of, had a weak position, there were too many anomalies in the details of how this storm proceeded into North Carolina and part of Tennessee. So, it’s since then, that the states have been, wait a minute, wait a minute, what happened on Maui was never really explained that the fire that happened on Maui, which did follow the California fires to a degree, but these are geoengineered fires, these are micro, a better term might be microwave fires, and they are instigated from what looks to be like space, it looks like it’s coming from above the earth. Well, it is, it’s coming from the upper atmosphere, and it is delivered primarily by laser.
And when it strikes the earth, then the next thing that people began to notice as analysis proceeded, they were looking at, well, the how the destruction was of the buildings, and not all buildings, but certain buildings, and then not other buildings. And then the, there was the rumor of the blue roof and how it could protect you. And, you know, they began to churn the waters of this event, so that the public is absolutely confused.
And, and picking up the opinion of this person, and that, and this, and that, and then the New York Times puts in its disinformation, and the Washington Post does its little act. And that’s, that’s how it, everything has been handled that way. I’m sure before John F. Kennedy’s assassination.
GR: You talk about the other technologies, for example, the use of nanotechnology, and the use of microwaves, and how that’s being used, you know, as a, as a service to the elites, as it were.
EF: If, if you were to really study how this works, you have to go to my second book, Under an Ionized Sky, From Chemtrails to Space Fence Lockdown. The space fence is a Lockheed Martin term.
Lockheed Martin is number one in the world for weapons production, and weapons sales. It, it controls all the patents that have to do with what they call the space fence. And the space fence simply is all, in a way, all the electronics that are above us in the atmosphere, either in our troposphere or the stratosphere above it, are controlled because the ionosphere, which is starts at about 25 miles above us, and goes for a couple hundred miles until it kind of merges with the magnetosphere.
All of that is electromagnetic, okay? Just, just picture that, sort of like we’re living under an umbrella of electromagnetism. And then on the earth, we have all these different infrastructure, all the way from radar installations that belong to the military, to telecommunications, power lines. We have all the things that are buried under the ground, like a cable, and we have cell towers, cell phones.
I mean, everywhere we look, it’s a wireless environment that we are now living in. And, and our health is going down the tubes because of this fact. And that’s, that’s the important part, is if you understand there’s the military, and then there’s the civilian.
And we’ve had those two things pretty separate for, well, thousands of years. But now the, the line between them is being erased. It, particularly in the technology, and what the military calls dual use of the technology.
So a lot of the things that we think we need for our conveniences, one thing that comes to mind for me is gas lines. They go under the streets. They’re, they’re everywhere.
We don’t see them because we’re, all we depend on is that, you know, we can, we can have, we used to have gas as, as something that would be gas stoves, and gas heaters, and that sort of thing. That’s now being changed to where we are now looking at everything becoming electromagnetic, and being electrically operated. These technologies are dual use.
They can be fired up, as you were mentioning, directed energy weapons. Yes, they can be weaponized. So can the 60 hertz in the walls of our homes, the internet of things, the internet of bodies, the internet of nano things.
And when you bring up nanotechnology, that’s exceedingly important, because that technology is brand new. We’ve had it since, I’ll say the 70s, we’ve had it. Certainly nature has had a great deal of nanoparticles.
Nanoparticles are generally very natural. They’re just teeny weeny, you know, a nano, a nanometer is one billionth of a meter. So that tells you how tiny these, that the nano part is just simply a size that the, that is being talked about.
GR: Okay. Yeah.
EF: Now, when the nanotech went into the rock, the fuel of the jets, and it was also put into delivery mechanisms for technologies that they obviously, once you begin to get the lay of the land of how big this operation is, you see that they wanted it to be spread abroad to see what effect it would have on nature, yes, but also on the human being.
What would happen when the human being breathed this in, and it went into their bloodstream, and then it went through the blood brain barrier. It’s been a massive experiment that has been going on. And what is the end? Well, to me, the end for the humans has to do with transhumanism and the destruction of the planet on its natural nature level has to do with making an environment that is exceedingly unfriendly to Homo Sapiens, possibly welcoming for the transhumans.
GR: Elana, I guess another thing we should add, which you did in the book, is the 5G, 6G, but also artificial intelligence, which is relatively recent. And the fact is that all of these technologies, which are different individually, but they are all molding into this new strategy to transform us.
And I’m wondering, is it just like you’ve got a new technology and we’ll just figure out a way to use it, or is there some mechanism that made the barriers, even from their conception, illusionary, or you don’t see how they unite until now? I mean, you understand what I’m talking about?
EF: Yeah. I call it a wet dream. Sorry if that’s offensive.
This elite wet dream of total control over the earth plane and the creatures on the earth, including the human being, is a very old dream of secret societies. You go back far enough. I mean, I can take it back to 1600, when Elizabeth I reigned in England, for example.
And you see these alchemists who were unstintingly working on, we always hear that they wanted to change lead into gold, but they were working on a lot of things. And part of it was the human being. What is a human being? I mean, in a way, back then, they had… I don’t know if you know this, Michael, but I’ve been a student of Rudolf Steiner, who is dead.
He died in 1925. He was a scientist and a mystic of sorts from Austria. He has put out a lot of information that can give us an idea of how the human being is, he calls it the religion of the gods.
And what he means by that is that we’re the only creature on the earth, to my knowledge, not even the whales and the wonderful dolphins, which are amazing creatures with very large brains, as you know. It’s that the human being is dedicated, the evolution of the human being, which is ongoing, we’ve been erased for a long millions of years, actually, to establish their control of their free will. And free will is something that even the angels don’t do.
If you read some of the medieval writers, they talk about the capabilities of angels and what they can do and can’t. Most people don’t believe in angels in America. I understand that.
We’re materialists here. But I think we are now coming up against the wall that we had no idea existed, which is that many of our scientists are not just materialists, but they are actually satanists, actually practicing satanists. Now, a lot of you may think satanism is just a Halloween lark of some sort.
No, it is an actual religion. And I don’t have to go very far to prove that. But the fact that our scientists are treating us, we human beings, not with care and not with deep interest in a spiritual manner, like they did in the 1600, when the alchemists were studying the human being.
No, they look at us as meat packages. In fact, the latest term in the CIA for humans is wetware, as in software, hardware, wetware. People have children, people have families they love, they have people they love.
They used to be artists. We don’t have many left. And the science now is just a matter of you try to get the grant money, you try to get the big corporate money, and you go for it.
There’s no question as to is it good for humanity? Is it good for nature? Is it at all something that is going to build instead of destroy? No, we haven’t really paid any attention to that for decades, at least during my life, and I’ve been here seven plus decades. So, this is the problem. If I really dig down into geoengineering, for example, and the electromagnetism that it absolutely depends on, absolutely, and that’s a huge, huge issue.
The chemistry it depends on, all of the parts that end up as mind control, end up as privacy is like a mirage now.
GR: Well, could you maybe just explain, just to back up a little bit, I mean, you claim that a lot of scientists are practicing Satanists, I mean, because that’s not exactly common knowledge. And I mean, I know a lot of people who have trained in this.
Is there something about the sciences that leads you to believe that? Or what is it about Satanism itself that’s, I guess, finds its inroads within modern science, which is, you know, it gets distinct from the kind of science that you’re talking about.
EF: Right, right. What I’m talking about is what has become known as scientism, and that term is well known.
That is the fake science. That’s kind of what we now are discovering that the whole CV-19 drama was really mired in, was this huge experiment, no previous knowledge. And, you know, because I’ve studied this so deeply now, the synthetic biology of it, I can read books now and see where the lies are.
I mean, not all of them, of course, that’s an ongoing process. But there are a lot of lies that now are considered, quote, scientific, but aren’t really, they’re scientism. And they’re made up to push an agenda.
Now you can say, okay, it’s a political agenda. But I can tell you that the political agenda is often, if you just scratch the surface a little bit, you’re going to find a spiritual component. You know, we know that to a degree, but we are still compartmentalizing.
That’s how our education system controls our ability to think, which Rudolf Steiner said is a spiritual activity. You do not think, I mean, you can think with the brain, but the thoughts you’ll come up with will not be either possibly true or will not go where you would want them to go, which would be in some wonderful creative direction that you’re taking life in so that more people can thrive and children can receive an amazing education that will give them a huge boost toward becoming the kind of individual who has a good, long thought about which technology should we invest in that will help the planet, that will help human beings, and which should we avoid? Because all they lead to is war and destruction. So that kind of questioning, we don’t even question that in America.
It’s like, if you can get the bucks to do it, go for it. And we’ll see what happens. And then we can always, you know, clean things up later with a lot of lies and subterfuge and make the health industry richer and the big pharma industry richer.
That kind of thinking has to go. We can’t afford that kind of thinking anymore. And that’s what I mean when I say that scientists are practicing satanist.
I happen to know of people who, yes, it’s hearsay, but it’s hearsay from very, a very believable people who have achieved a lot in life of going to parties with elites. And suddenly there’s like a ritual space. They are present at horrible things using children.
So this is well known now. A lot of people don’t want to, they don’t want to go there. I get it.
It’s ugly. It’s dark. We want to think the best about our nation, about the people who are running our nation, about the scientists who are creating the science that we are all in one way or another subject to.
But it is true. It is absolutely true. And so now, now we need to really, and I think this Trump, Kennedy, Musk triumvirate that has come in and is working on different areas in order to drain the swamp, get rid of the deep state that, you know, I have been blighted with since John Kennedy’s terrible murder, to, to clean things up.
And now we have the opportunity. And I think Robert Kennedy is taking full advantage of it. Well, maybe not as full as some people would like, definitely, but he is in the right direction to, to set our path more, more for truth, for real justice, for beauty, for goodness, for all these attributes, these, these virtues that we used to hear about in the liberal arts education that now is being completely smeared and wiped out.
We at least would hear of people who sought to bring the good, the true and the beautiful to, to humanity. That’s what I meant by evil. And I can use the word evil if people don’t like the word Satanism, but Satanism is, is simply a form of religion that is organized evil and, and very dedicated to death.
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Notes:
- Elana Freeland (2025), p. 3, ‘The Geoengineered Transhuman: The Hidden Technologies of HAARP, Chemtrails, 5G/6G, Nanotechnology, Synthetic Biology, and the Scientific Effort to Transform Humanity‘, Sacred Planet Books
- Tom Metcalfe (July 21, 2023), ‘What was the Manhattan Projoect’, Scientific American; https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-was-the-manhattan-project/
- Elana Freeland Op Cit. p.. 2
- ibid;
- Elana Freeland Op cit. pg 35, 39, 124, 172, 292, 294-295, 338-339, 365-366
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